The insightful Handle writes,
free YouTube videos combined with cheap and quick home delivery of tools and parts have made my own home, computer, and auto repairs much more worth my time than trying to arrange for an experienced professional.
I get it that having a YouTube video that tells me how to fix my toilet can lower the time it takes me to do it myself. But the Internet also makes it easier for me to find a cheap handyman. Overall, I think that my propensity to spend time fixing things myself has gone down rather than up over the past decade. Not that it was very high to begin with.
Another commenter writes,
I think Prof. Kling misunderstood Prof. Cowen’s point. Less household production as share of GDP is not necessarily a bad thing and the best number may very well be 0%.
However, household production is generally not included in the GDP figures, even though it arguably should be. If actual GDP, including household production, used to be 37% higher than measured GDP, but now is only 20% higher than measured GDP, then the growth in actual GDP over the period has been even lower than the pretty dismal numbers we are observing.
Hence, this statistic supports Prof. Cowen’s hobby horse of the Great Stagnation, regardless of how one feels the ideal percentage of GDP household production ought to be. I think he is right on this point.
In a follow-up, the commenter writes,
My neighbor and I live in identical houses and we are equally messy. Initially, we both clean our own houses and nothing is added to measured GDP.
Then we decide to pay each other $100/week to clean each other’s house. Suddenly, measured GDP is $10k/year higher than it used to be. But economically nothing has changed. This suggests that we ought to include our cleaning labors in GDP regardless of whether we clean our own houses or each other’s.
I think this is misleading. I prefer to look at it this way:
1. Suppose you are willing to pay me $100 for 5 hours of cleaning services. Then that puts a value on my time of $20 an hour.
2. Now, suppose that I decide to spend 5 hours cleaning my own house. You want to say that I have produced $100 of output.
3. I would say instead that the 5 hours I spend cleaning my own house is a waste of time!
Maybe if you assume that the most valuable work I can do is cleaning houses, then you are sort of right. But if I am a surgeon, then you are pretty much wrong. And I claim that as an economy gets more efficient at using specialization, you become less and less right and more and more wrong.
In terms of comparing well-being now with well-being 50 years ago, suppose that most of the reduction in housework is due to the prevalence of permanent-press clothes rather than having to iron them. Suppose that our entire (market-based) GDP consists of shirt production. It would be really nice if the GDP calculation subtracted the need for ironing from the cost of today’s shirts. But it could only show up as a quality adjustment that I suspect is too sophisticated to be captured in the statistics.
Suppose that actual shirt production remains the same as it was 50 years ago. Then measured GDP might be the same, also (it could be a little higher, if the statisticians pick up some of the quality adjustment). But the alternative concept, of GDP + household production, has gone down from 50 years ago, because we have stopped ironing. To me, that makes GDP + household production a stupid concept. It has things exactly backwards.
If you are going to add anything household-related in GDP, it ought to be leisure, not housework. If you show me that leisure + GDP is not growing very much, then I would count that as an argument for a Great Stagnation. But I am not the least bit persuaded by a measure of GDP + housework.