The FBI Did Its Job?

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This story disturbed me.

Abell added that they thought the man was “very suspicious,” so they called the local FBI office in West Palm Beach and reported the incident. But they didn’t have the man’s name, since no sale was made, and the only surveillance footage they had was grainy.

So the gun dealer did not give the FBI the name of the guy who a few weeks later became the Orlando shooter. To me, that does not excuse the FBI. If you are called by a gun dealer, there ought to be procedures in place to make the issue a priority. And there ought to have been a way to go back and look at everyone else in the area who had been reported in recent years.

This guy says that the FBI did its job.

I disagree. I admit that it probably is hard to prevent a lot of killings. But this is one incident that was eminently preventable. If the FBI does not think it needs to change, that is wrong.

There were not just dots to be connected here. There were gigantic arrows pointing to the shooter, and the FBI missed those.

My $.02

9 thoughts on “The FBI Did Its Job?”

  1. Without knowing the volume and value of leads that FBI typically gets, it’s hard to know what the FBI should be doing, though “suspicious visit to gun store” has to be a high value lead. The real problem is the creation, via immigration, of a fifth column in the US. That’s why we need more immigration, to spy on all the other immigrants.

  2. Well, what you should do before you criticize the FBI in this matter is to understand what information they have available. If you take a look at the “records” the ATF actually has, and then realize who is responsible for this total lack of “records”, you might want to change your mind about assigning blame. Hint: It is the same people that just voted down the latest attempt at gun control.

    John Oliver shows this clearly starting at 4:57.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjggOehU_QY

    • A guy walks into a gun store, asks suspicious questions about body armor and ammunition, doesn’t buy anything, and you’re trying to blame the gun lobby for the ATF not having records of his name and his non-purchase?

      • If he had asked at a gun show would anyone have even called them? Certainly the gun lobby blocks any and all attempts to limit gun sales and that includes even common sense ones the majority supports. They are dogmatic on the issue. It would probably take a charitable organization providing free guns to domestic Islamists before that even has a possibility of changing.

        • Yes. The gun shows are a lot of the same people.

          I don’t know anything except I do know it is not a records issue. The NSA hasnt stopped a single thing. They have everything there is to have.

        • Begging the question. No, the problem is that the proposed limits on gun sales do not stop things the majority wants stopped.

          They stop things like veterans or those falsely accused of domestic abuse from getting and keeping their guns.

          The sales pitch that those things stop things like muslims shooting up gay bars are lies. Sometimes those lies trick the majority into supporting them, usually not, which is why they aren’t passing, not because of a minority opposition.

          Back to the relevant topic, I am hesitant to criticize the FBI because they don’t really do this kind of work, and I don’t think this kind of work is possible. They should stop lying that they do this work and that it is achievable, but I don’t expect miracles.

  3. What we really need to do is to collect 200 million guns and increase the Total Information Awareness power.

    At times I don’t think it is possible to be charitable? Any tips?

    • I mean, it’s not possible to be charitable and truthful and authentic at the same time. Does one make believe?

      Again, the FBI+NSA has not stopped a single terrorist attack. The FBI has stopped a lot of entrapments they created. Did they create these to reduce terrorism, or to justify themselves and their asks for more power? You decide. I think they have stopped one legit plan, but when I looked at that one even it was sketchy. They may have gotten lucky since I last checked.

  4. I’m a little suspicious about the statements made by the owner of the gun store.

    The only video they had was grainy? Why? It sounds like the guy they reported was in the store for quite a while. How bad is their video equipment? If the guy was so suspicious, why didn’t they bother to permanently record the portion of the video when he was in the store?

    Since the store owner has no evidence that the guy who was in the store 6 weeks ago was actually Mateen, why should we believe him?

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