Doubts on Solar

Timothy Taylor finds a study by Charles R. Frank, Jr. that tries to assess the cost of solar’s lack of reliability. Taylor quotes Frank:

we estimate that it would take 7.30 MW of solar capacity, costing roughly four times as much per MW to produce the same electrical output with the same degree of reliability as a baseload gas combined cycle plant. It requires an investment of approximately $29 million in utility-scale solar capacity to produce the same output with the same reliability as a $1 million investment in gas combined cycle.

Solar Power Issues

Richard Swanson, founder of a major solar power company:

Solar panels now account for less than half of the cost of a solar panel system. For example, installers spend a lot of time and money designing each rooftop solar system. They need to have a certain number of panels in a row, all getting the same amount of sunlight. A bunch of companies are automating the process, some with the help of satellites. One of the most exciting things is microinverters [electronics that control solar panel power output] that allow you to stick solar panels anywhere on a roof—it’s almost plug and play.

Read the whole short interview.

Provocative Sentences

From Roger Pielke:

a “carbon cap” necessarily means that a government is committing to either a cessation of economic growth or to the systematic advancement of technological innovation in energy systems on a predictable schedule, such that economic growth is not constrained. Because halting economic growth is not an option, in China or anywhere else, and because technological innovation does not occur via fiat, there is in practice no such thing as a carbon cap.

Pointer from Mark Thoma.

If you assume a Leontief production function, then this is correct. You either come up with a way to reduce the fixed coefficient of carbon/output or you reduce output.

Instead of a fixed-factor production function, assume some substitutability, in which you can produce the same output with less carbon emissions and more of some of other factor of production–labor, capital, or other forms of energy. That would mean that you can vary the carbon/output ratio with existing knowledge, so that Pielke is not correct. He might argue that the elasticity of substitution is quite small, which may plausibly be the case.

I am skeptical that a carbon cap would be implemented effectively. The more narrowly it is implemented, the more the substitution will be between two different sources of carbon emissions rather than away from overall carbon emissions. Thus, the recent announcement by the EPA that it will target the electric power industry for a 30 percent reduction in emissions over a period of decades strikes me as unwise from even the most staunch environmentalist perspective. Assuming that the policy were to stick and the reduction were to be achieved within that industry, it would most likely be the result of a shift of carbon-intensive energy sources to uses in other sectors. It is not hard to picture a scenario in which total carbon emissions actually increase as a result, because you are directing carbon-based energy sources into less efficient uses.

Regardless, the EPA announcement works well as a gesture. And politics seems to be mostly about gestures. In Hansonian terms, politics is not about policy.

A Scientist Shunned

Patrick Brennan reproduces a letter from a scientist pressured to resign from a climate skeptic group.

I had not expect[ed] such an enormous world-wide pressure put at me from a community that I have been close to all my active life. Colleagues are withdrawing their support, other colleagues are withdrawing from joint authorship etc.

I see no limit and end to what will happen. It is a situation that reminds me about the time of McCarthy. I would never have expecting anything similar in such an original peaceful community as meteorology. Apparently it has been transformed in recent years.

I do not know the full background. Perhaps there is a charitable interpretation. However, unless there are particulars that justify this instance, I am inclined to think that shunning of a former colleague for joining a climate skeptic group is a sign of intellectual weakness, not strength.

The list of speakers dis-invited or withdrawn from commencement addresses because of a purge mentality is also a source of concern. I wish that there were stronger voices on the left denouncing this phenomenon.

Daniel Kahan Discovers Expressive Voting

He said,

Look: What an ordinary individual believes about the “facts” on climate change has no impact on the climate.

What he or she does as a consumer, as a voter, or as a participant in public debate is just too inconsequential to have an impact.

No mistake she makes about the science on climate change, then, is going to affect the risk posed by global warming for him or her or for anyone else that person cares about.

But if he or she takes the “wrong” position in relation to his or her cultural group, the result could be devastating for her, given what climate change now signifies about one’s membership in and loyalty to opposing cultural groups.

Kahan advises climate worriers to try to engage in public discussion in ways that are less “culturally assaultive.” This assumes that climate worriers care more about climate policy than about asserting their moral and intellectual superiority over conservatives. The most charitable I can be is to say that I am willing to wait and see whether that is the case.

Noah Smith on Solar Power

He writes,

Solar is a libertarian dream. The utility companies that states like Oklahoma are scrambling to protect are cozy government-protected monopolies (though eventually they too will survive by switching to solar). Rooftop solar offers a chance for independent homeowners to free themselves from reliance on a collectivist system. And solar is a triumph of human ingenuity, the kind of advance that Julian Simon believed would always save us from “limits to growth” – in the long run, oil and coal and gas will run out, but cheap solar will sustain capitalism.

Pointer from Mark Thoma. I agree that as innovations continue to bring about reductions in the relative cost of solar power, many benefits will ensue. Still, I believe that the Department of Energy’s loan guarantees to solar companies (and others) were not good policy, and certainly not libertarian in spirit. I am interested in engaging with those who would criticize such a belief. I am not interested in engaging the theory that conservatives, because of their evil nature, are opponents of solar power.

By the way, as I read the table in Timothy Taylor’s post, solar power does not come across as particularly inexpensive in the near future. And you should also read this earlier Timothy Taylor post:

When a technological standard is required, then firms which could have reduced pollution more cheaply are not allowed to gain a competitive advantage from doing so–because all must follow the prescribed standard.

Read the whole post, which describes the tendency for environmental regulation to become less about reducing pollution and more about restricting competition.

I propose that we try to eliminate from discussions of public policy related to solar and nuclear energy any arguments that are based on sentiment, wishful thinking, or rent-seeking. Everybody police their own side.

Climate Models vs. Macroeconomic Models

In a podcast with Russ Roberts, Kerry Emanuel says,

there is a huge difference between climate modeling and economic modeling. We know the equations. You guys don’t. Okay? And we actually know the equations we are trying to solve. And the problems come with actually trying to solve them. And arguably our computers aren’t nearly powerful enough to really solve them exactly; and they won’t be for generations, unless there is some unbelievable breakthrough in computation.

I am surprised that he received no pushback on this point. I confess that I paused there and searched the transcript for “water vapor” or “clouds.” Not finding either, I just skimmed the rest of the transcript without reading it closely.

Wesley Mouch’s Assistant

CBS reports,

Lesley Stahl: Let me interrupt you. You were the government. How many of the loans were you involved in?

Steven Koonin: Difficult to know the exact number. But I would say in the order of 30.

Lesley Stahl: Did you make mistakes?

Steven Koonin: I think I didn’t do as good a job as I could’ve. In retrospect, I would’ve done things a bit differently.

Lesley Stahl: Part of this was supposed to be creating new jobs. Everything I’ve read there were not many jobs created.

Steven Koonin: That’s correct.

Lesley Stahl: So what went wrong there?

Steven Koonin: I didn’t say it would create jobs. Other people did.

Honestly, I did not know what to excerpt. Read the whole thing. Wesley Mouch was, of course, Steven Chu, the Energy Secretary in President Obams’s first term.

Energy Breakthroughs?

The latest issue of MIT Technology Review lists ten (not-yet-proven) breakthrough technologies. Two that caught my eye:

Solar panels that are twice as efficient as current designs. Although I strongly oppose subsidizing current solar industries, I do hope for a “solar singularity,” meaning that at some point solar power becomes more efficient than other sources of energy and then continues to increase its advantage.

A new circuit breaker that would allow the electric grid to operate on direct current, which

can efficiently transport electricity over thousands of kilometers and for long distances underwater

Wesley Mouch Update

Veronique de Rugy writes,

In 2009, Fisker received a $529 million federal loan from the Department of Energy’s ATVM program. According to the New York Times, two years after receiving the loans, the company repeatedly missed production targets and other deadlines. They’ve now fired 75 percent of their workforce and hired bankruptcy advisers. It has not built a car since July 2012. That lead the DOE to suspend their support, after having guaranteed $192 million of the $529 million loan. Like Solyndra, taxpayers will foot that bill, minus the $21 million that the government managed to seize from the company’s cash reserves.

At the time that the loan was made, I hailed it.

Forget a carbon tax. Forget cap and trade. Steven Chu is going straight to picking winners and losers.

Two months later, I was still ecstatic.

The American people are being forced to participate in a venture capital fling in which they take most of the down side and none of the up side. And it is not being debated. Nobody has to come before the public and explain themselves. If you call yourself a progressive, are you proud of this?

If there were any justice in the world Steven Chu would be occupying a cell with Bernie Madoff.